Health Conditions

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

Herbie53 — Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:56:14 GMT

Hi Nettie,

I am so sorry to hear about your daughter. This just bought back mermories about my sister who is now 34 years old. When she was younger it started about 5years old she was complaining of sore joints. She had all the tests done at the time and Mum was told it is just "growing pains" and Cathy was to get on with it with painkillers.She would "grow out of it". There were times Cathy couldn't work her knees or fingers they were that painful and suffered from the cold alot. It was quite painful to watch your sister struggle with day to day. She was unable to do PE in school and outside activties. Cathy had to change her diet with extra calicum etc with out much success. However when she was in teacher college, she went to the doctors and by chance seen by a locum. It was him that organised a blood test and lung function and Cathy was told she has "Lupus" (Lupus as I understand it is the body attacking itself.) This was a great weight off her mind as she had starting to doubt herself and was going into depression. It has now been 12 years since she has been told and with treatment she has now got painfree, healthy life with 2 healthy children. She still has to go to and get annual lung functions done to make sure all is ok.

I don't want to scare you but just might be lupus, as I have seen anybody mention it before. And as far as I know it is not all that common. I really hope they find out what is wrong with your daughter to allow her a happy healthy painfree life.

Best wishes

Joanne

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

MIMO — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 20:28:21 GMT

Dear Nettie , As a Geopathic Stress Practitioner, my advice is to firstly move her sleeping location , either by changing beds , or by moving her bed well away from its existing position . My reason is simple , if your daughter is under the influence of an upper water line , this will show itself in localised 'dis-ease' within the body ........... so the likelyhood is that the line traces a path where an 'edge' of the line passes through her pelvic region .

This is a simple test, to make sure that the problem is not simply being caused by Earth Energy .

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

Rochelle — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 15:50:58 GMT

As a Registered homeopath of 10 years I would say that to give a child or anyone else 1 dose of Calc Phos in the 30C potency DAILY is wrong and unnecessary and could cause proving symptoms. You say that the Calc Phos has done wonders - Excellent BUT it should have been stopped as soon as the improvement began and not repeated unless your child regressed again.

Calc Phos is indeed a mineral etc but in a homeopathic potency of 30C there is none of that original mineral remaining , just the energy of it , and this works in a completely different way than the mineral itself!!

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

iamok — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 21:58:50 GMT

Carefully check that you do not cook in Aluminium or non stick or those new anodised aluminium pans

Anyone who is sensitive to Aluminium can get severe stomach pains and joint pains and often they are falsely diagnosed with everything from Arthritis to irritable bowel

You might also consider the possibility of Coeliac Disease ( gluten sensitivity) this can also cause the same symptoms in children

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

Mandy Krumins — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 21:23:36 GMT

Nettie,

If a 6 year old girl were brought to me for a consultation with pain of this level with this distribution I would be keen to rule out a bilateral inflammatory arthridity of which there are many, most common being juvenille rheumatoid arthritis, although this normally starts in the small joints of hands and feet. This requires a blood test looking for rheumatoid factor and ESR (x-rays in the early stages of any arthridity are useless as it takes some 6 - 12 months to see boney changes). I would also be keen to rule out capital slipped epiphysis of the hips, which refers pain into the knees but this would be unusual in both hips at the same time and calve-leg-perthes disease which is a necrosis of the hips.

Should there be any abnormality in the blood tests and the problem really persists, I would probably push for an MRI.

Mandy Lock B.Sc., DC (chiropractor)

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

aobbard — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 17:28:21 GMT

Are you in a fluoridated area? Fluoride in tap water can cause joint and muscle problems.

Please check this out.

http://fluoride.ecobytes.net/Alert/Niger/Hundreds-of-Children-Poisoned-by-Tap-Water

Hope she is getting better.

Adrienne.

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

nettie — Wed, 12 Nov 2008 14:42:56 GMT

Thank you for that useful tip I will endeavor to get her on to it A.S.A.P. and will let you know...!!!

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

djlloyd — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 21:31:12 GMT

Hi Nettie,

Firstly I am sorry to hear that your daughter has been suffering with this pain in her joints. I am not a qualified practitioner but I have been using homeopathy for the past 15 years with some very successful results. I have four sons and have treated them over the years, my youngest son who is also six has displayed very similar symptoms to that of your daughter. I have discovered that these pains that mainly affect his knee joints are indeed growing pains which are quite normal for a child of this age,although not all children will suffer to the extent of ours! The treatment I have been following is homeopathic and I have been advised by a qualified homeopath to give Calcarea Phosphorica (Calc-p.) Once a day for about a month in a 30c potency. This has been amazing ,he has not complained of pains since I started giving him the remedy. I have been told to repeat this if he complains again of the symptoms, which he has from time to time and after the first or second dose he is no longer saying his knees hurt!!

Calcium phosphate is a mineral salt and is the principal mineral constituent of bones and teeth. It accounts for about 60 per cent of the average human skeleton.

I hope this is helpful and I wish you and your family well.

Regards,

Deborah

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

Natasha715 — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 20:05:42 GMT

Hi Nettie,

I would definitely have her tested for Lyme disease. There is a blood test called Panel 57 which supposedly the most comprehensive. Here are a couple of websites that might be helpful.

http://www.anapsid.org/lyme/strickerpanel.html

http://www.lymediseaseresource.com/Diagnosis.html

Best of luck, hopefully it is just growing pains.

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

aobbard — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 10:40:33 GMT

Just a thought.

Could this possibly be Lyme Disease? I think it would be well worth looking into this as I know it is very underdiagnosed.

http://www.lymediseaseaction.org.uk/

Adrienne.

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

nettie — Fri, 07 Nov 2008 00:12:02 GMT

thanks for your thoughts and today I took her to see our pediatrician and got a whole heap of blood tests done...all will be revealed tomorrow although today for the first time in about three weeks she was almost back to her normal bouncy self...???? she is one of three and she was neatly tucked up under my ribs and the boys shared the lower area for themselves...hopefully something come of her tests and I will keep you posted...thanks Nettie

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

kweeks — Wed, 05 Nov 2008 13:58:21 GMT

Dear Nettie

LOts of what others have said is good. One thought is foods that create uric acid in the body, which in turns causes crystallization in the body and can cause arthritis, joint pain etc. Also, due to her age I would get her a full blood screen through the GP, most pelvic scans don't show everything due to the technique they use. Also, have you thought about chiropractice - has she had any injury recently or in her 6 years, including how she was positioned in the womb?

really hope you find am answer

Kate

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

SejualShah — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 15:58:33 GMT

Hi Nettie,

You could try working with emotional freedom techniques (EFT). EFT is an accupressure technique that involves wordplay. It can bring about gentle pain relief. It can be learnt for yourself from a free download manual provided by its founder, Gary Craig. His website is: http://www.emofree.com/a/?2436 .

The technique sounds very simple but it often provides rapid relief. For a simple overview have a look at the 7 minute video on the website above. It's located on the left of the page. I don't know any practitioners in the Carribean, though have located one in the Bahamas if that's any good. if you can find a good one near to you that may help. Otherwise, practitioners like myself work over the phone and webcam and provide an alternative form of help.

Good luck in getting help for your daughter.

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

ej2k3 — Tue, 04 Nov 2008 13:52:12 GMT

Just wondering if you had any updates on this?

If not, have the doctors x-rayed your daughters hips?

EJxx

Re: unexplained joint pain in six year old girl

nettie — Sun, 02 Nov 2008 23:41:25 GMT

Thanks for your suggestions,we all live in the Caribbean and have an amazingly healthy lifestyle and our daughter has had only the first immunization up until she was 2 and no M.M.R .or anything else since she has no fillings has not had an accident but swims, plays football ,horseback rides, roller blades, snorkels, climbs trees etc and does anything thats on offer.She has never eaten sweets and is known in the family as the fruit bat for all the fruit and veg she consumes...she loves eggs and would eat 3 or 4 a day if I allowed...she never eats beef and only occasiponally chicken or pork and a little fish if diquised.our water is sky juice as we catch it from the roof and if not its bottled..and she rarly uses toothpaste and its kiddie stuff...her posture has been good up until ythese bouts of joint pain when she walks around like John Wayne..she has recently started gynastics at school,but does nothing more in the class than she has at home for years...I will try the fish oil supplement...to give up youghurt will be tough and to increase her water I will also tryt but she drinks alot as this is the only thing they all drink...thanks again for all your advice I will keep you posted...Nettie