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Last post 08-02-2009, 3:25 PM by SueEBE. 15 replies.
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  •  07-01-2009, 7:10 PM 8279

    Friend being offered HRT

    I would greatly appreciate some advice please.  My friend recently had a cancerous lump removed from her breast.  I have just received a text message from her saying "Lymph and tests clear, it's grade 1.  Have to take HRT for 4 to 5 years just in case.  Have infection and have to have further procedure to take a bit more away".

    I have just sent her the article from this site - HRT: The danger drug that was, and then wasn't.  She tends to worry and I would like to send her lots of positive things that she can do and take which don't include chemicals.  I want to be constructive but don't have the knowledge needed to advise her myself.

    Could someone please help me help my friend please?

    Thanks

    Sue 

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  •  07-01-2009, 8:37 PM 8281 in reply to 8279

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    Hi Sue,

    Nice to see you still working on behalf of your friends again.

    Try this link:

    http://www.doctorsaredangerous.com/articles/maca.htm

    My favourite resource for HRT info is Elaine Hollingsworths book Take Control Of Your Health and Escape The Sickness Industry.

    Dr John Lee and Dr Raymond Peat are well respected authors of HRT related info.

    Robin

     


    Robin Allan
    Chek Practitioner
    Natural Health Coach

    http://www.robinallan.com


    robin_allan@hotmail.com

    07967-366470
  •  07-02-2009, 2:16 AM 8283 in reply to 8281

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    Hi Robin

     I can always rely on you for some good advice and direction.  Many thanks.  I can only hand over the information and hope that they include it in their decisions.  Deeply ingrained belief systems are hard to challenge when people are sick and afraid of consequences - they will automatically go with what they know.  

    My friend who had her hysterectomy at the end of April is still experiencing numbness in her lower body - something that the doctors didn't mention to her as a possible side effect, but was in the information I sent her which she chose not to read as she had made up her mind that she just wanted her womb gone as it had caused her so much trouble.  She doesn't regret her decision as she feels much better than she did as she was in a dreadful state, but has sworn off chemicals and drugs for life as she knows that's what caused her problems in the first place.  One of her doctors even admitted to her that the medicine she had been prescribed over the years was the cause of her bodily breakdown.  The other one who was the surgeon had the attitude that my friend's body had let her down and surgery was there to fix it.

    Thanks again.

     Sue 

  •  07-07-2009, 4:27 PM 8343 in reply to 8279

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    Hi Sue,

    I had at least 5 doctors trying to get me on to HRT but I found that Wild Yam and Dong Qui worked wonderfully for me, I never did go on to HRT.  A good herbalist/nutritionalist is brill to contact, yes they charge £30 for the first hour consultation (no touching) they treat the whole person not just a condition, and then prescribe what your own body needs at that time.  I have been strictly following mine for some 8 weeks now and have never felt better, she follows my progress by phone and alters my herbs/nutrition to suit, I have IBS/Arthrititis/LS and all three are loads better for my new lifestyle, I am also fitter, slimmer and mentally stronger.  Well worth trying as doctor prescribed medication, seemed to be making me worse both physically and mentally.

    Regards Paula

  •  07-07-2009, 8:48 PM 8351 in reply to 8279

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    Hi Sue,

    I recommend Aloe Vera drinking gel for helping to boost recovery from the next surgery that your friend has to face.  It will also help protect against MRSA infection and other viruses.  Two of my friends have are have been drinking he gel throughout their surgery and in both cases the doctors are amazed at the recovery rate.

     I am currently managing my menopause symptoms through natural supplements as I am committed to not using conventional HRT.  I am taking some of the supplements recommended by Forever living products i.e. ABetaCareE, Artic Sea and occasionally Gin Chia when I feel low.  I also take Bee pollen for energy and of course drink Aloe vera daily.  My symptoms have reduced considerably.  I still get occasional hot flushes and night sweats however, the mood swings have stopped and my energy levels have soared.  Forever also recommend Multi Maca.  You may wish to check out the following site regarding the Peruvian herb 

     www.natural-progesterone-estrogen-supplements.com

    Hope this helps and do keep in touch about your friends success with her health.

    If you have any questions please let me know 

    Best wishes
     

    Noelyne 


    Noelyne Jones

    Wellness Management Coach

    Independent Distributor - Forever
    http://distrib.foreverliving.com/retail/EntryServlet?langID=en&storeID=GBR&distribID=440100124992
  •  07-14-2009, 12:21 PM 8406 in reply to 8351

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    I would never take any hormons and this is where I would be going if I ever get cancer :

    http://www.brasschecktv.com/page/398.html    This cancer doctor should get the Nobel price in medicine !

  •  07-14-2009, 12:21 PM 8407 in reply to 8279

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    I take HRT but am prescribed it by my doctor, not because of cancerous breasts, but because my levels or hormones in my body are out of balance.

    BUT the secret is to go to a specialist anti-aging doctor with qualifications in that field. The hormones I take are bio-identical hormones and not one bit like the chemical ones that you are possibly being asked to take. I might add that my hormones do cost a lot but no way would I use the other chemical sort which have been proven to increase risk of cancer amongst other things. With bioidentical hormone treatment it is essential that you go to someone qualified, as it is not just a matter of taking these, but the balance between them is critical depending on each individual case.

    A good book to read on the subject is: Life Extension Revolution by Philip Lee Miller M.D.

    It is an excellent book to read and will enlighten you on all aspects of your health. And drugs are generally not advised.Natural substances not foreign to your body system, and diet changes are recommended to keep you healthy in your "old" age.

     The book above, also mentions some natural herbs that assist in replacing hormones, but Dr Miller stresses that it is not an area which you take things haphazardly. You must have your hormone levels checked and then a balance between them is the goal.

     I might add that my regular Doctor (not the anti-aging doctor) seems totally ignorant on this subject. We agree to differ!

    Hope this helps

    Pam.

  •  07-14-2009, 1:08 PM 8414 in reply to 8279

    Hormone Replacement Therapy?!

    I am absolutely stunned that any doctor would suggest that a woman with breast cancer should take HRT!  HRT is very clearly implicated as a cause of breast cancer.  What kind of logic could that doctor possibly be using?

    One of the first things that needs to be understood is that cancer is not a death sentence - and small tumors may often be better managed by leaving them alone.

    Here are some articles that may be helpful:

    What Steps to Take If You Find Yourself Diagnosed With Cancer

    Cancer Is Defeated by a Healthy Immune System

    Your friend is lucky to have you. The best of all to you both.

    Regards,

    Heidi Stevenson

     

  •  07-14-2009, 1:49 PM 8420 in reply to 8279

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    Hi Sue, I've had breast cancer twice and have never heard of anyone being put on HRT to stop a recurrence.  The US has recently had a 7% fall in breast cancer cases since women read a American report saying that HRT was linked to increased breast cancer risk and thousands of them decided to stop taking it!  Generally you would be given Tamoxifen (or similar drug), that is an anti-oestrogen hormone treatment, which would normally be taken for 4-5 years.

    My husband contacted the Penny Brohn Cancer Care centre in Bristol http://www.pennybrohncancercare.org/ and they emailed him a list of Vitamins/Minerals to take for breast cancer.  They also advised stopping vitamin intake for 2 days prior to any Chemo and for 3 days after.  As there are studies coming out now that hint that taking vitamins may interfere with conventional Chemo then this is undoubtedly good advice which I followed when I had my Chemo. around 4 years ago.

    All the best to your friend, Clare

  •  07-14-2009, 3:08 PM 8425 in reply to 8420

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    Thank you all so much for your knowledge and advice about this issue.  I am passing on all the information to my friend so that she can make an informed decision.  At least by reading all this it will create questions in her mind that she can ask her doctor and see if she gets an informed answer.

    She has a further procedure at the end of this month and then should receive the all clear.

    I will post again when I have more information, but thank you all again for your time in replying.

     Sue 

  •  07-21-2009, 12:56 PM 8493 in reply to 8279

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    Hi Sue, you can look at information on this website: www.drgraemewilliams.com which explains that doctors have mistakenly been told that lack of oestrogen is the culprit for womens' hormonal problems however the opposite is the truth.  Too much oestrogen causes many negative symptoms including cancer to not only women but men also (through xenoestrogens) who do not have progestrone to balance this.  My husband and I have now been on the bio-organic Progesterone Cream Dr Williams has made for our specific needs after giving a blood sample for analysis.  You can do this on the internet via his website and a local pathology clinic and although his office is in Australia, I live in Hong Kong and in only a few days my new 3 mth supply of cream arrives in the mail.  We both feel so much better with more energy, our libido is much better and heavy menstral problems are gone along with the extra kilos.  Dr Williams explains why you should not have HRT or oestrogen laden birth control pills and why HRT was mistakenly believed to be beneficial for women by carrying out research using only 8 women.  They got it very wrong and caused a lot of illness in the process. 

    Nette

  •  07-21-2009, 5:58 PM 8525 in reply to 8493

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    Thanks Nette - that's very interesting and I'll pass the information on.  I appreciate your time.

     Sue 

  •  07-28-2009, 1:11 PM 8614 in reply to 8406

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    Having just watched the video on www.brasschecktv. I would never use the orthodox, cut, poison and burn treatment, but somehow find a Dr. who would administer bicarb.  At least give it a go.  HRT? certainly not, nor any hormone treatment.  I had breast cancer 11 years ago.  Refused removal of lymph nodes and chemo. and did not take Tamoxifen.  Would have refused R/T if I had had the courage.  Didn't know about WDDTY then and didn't trust info. just my own instincts.  Hope this friend truly considrs all options.
  •  07-31-2009, 2:00 PM 8663 in reply to 8279

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    I think your friend is referring to Tamoxifen, not the HRT that women are prescribed for menopausal symptoms. Tamoxifen does the opposite to HRT, by blocking oestrogen. Suggest your friend contacts the Penny Brohn Centre, or the Dove Clinic.
  •  07-31-2009, 3:45 PM 8666 in reply to 8279

    Re: Friend being offered HRT

    In case you missed it, a very recent WDDTY article reported curcumin (Inidan curry spice) has anti-cancer properties although it doesn't necessarily replace conventional therapy.  Here's the headline and a few additional statements:

    A spice that counters the cancer risks of HRT

    23 July 2009

    Women worried about the cancer-causing effects of hormone replacement therapy (HRT) can reduce their risks by taking a spice that’s often used in Indian food.

    Scientists have discovered that curcumin, ...(Source: University of Missouri-Columbia).

     

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