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  •  06-24-2009, 4:29 PM 8192

    Painful leg ulcer

    I have a leg ulcer so painful that it's driving me insane. The district nurses want to use compression bandaging (which worked okay a few times in the past) but this one is so excruciatingly painful that I just can't bear the very thought of it.

    Does anyone know anything that would soothe the pain enough for me to be able to tolerate the bandaging?  I have had aspirin/codeine, paracetamol and finally Tramadol - none of them eased it. I've had RA for years so I imagine I've acquired a tolerance for those first 4 mentioned. (I battled to avoid NSAIDs because any I got made me sick). I'm trying to hold a Magnessage over it several times a day, but how long will it take to show results?  Would anyone have any idea?

    Please help if you can. I'm getting desperate!

    Thanks for reading this.

    Rosemary11

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  •  06-24-2009, 4:56 PM 8193 in reply to 8192

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Hi Rosemary

    My friend had leg sores earlier this year - they wept a lot although they weren't painful.  On recommendations from people on this site she started applying Manuka Honey +15 which she bought off the internet.  They cleared up miraculously and a month later there was no sign that she'd ever had them.  She had previously tried all sorts to get rid of them over a period of about 5 months.

    She applied the honey and left her leg bare so that the air could get to it.  It was only uncomfortable when she covered it.

    I wish you well and hope that you get better soon.  You might also like to look at emotional issues behind physical symptoms by looking at Louise Hay's book "You Can Heal Your Life" - I personally have found it very enlightening.

    Sue 

  •  06-26-2009, 5:49 PM 8213 in reply to 8192

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Hi Rosemary,

    I can 'feel' your pain in your message.  Unfortunately, I do not know anything about the Magnessage.  My recommendations are for Natural Health products based on Aloe Vera and Bees.  We have very good long lasting results using Aloe vera to help the body to heal leg ulcers.

    Aloe has the following properties.  It is a natural cleanser, soothes pain, antibacterial, anti-inflammatory, moisturises tissue, no known side effects and promotes healthy cell growth.  It is known to speed up the healing process by one third.

    The Aloe Vera Gelly produced by Forever Living Products is the product I recommend for soothing and pain relief.  It penetrates into the different layers of the skin to work in the dermis layer so helping cell renewal too.

    There are a number of other products that could also be beneficial to you and which you may wish to consider.  It depends on the state of the ulcer and the cause.  

    Aloe Vera drinking gel as an all round general health tonic.  In addition to the benefits mentioned above it will boost your immune system and cleanse your digestive system to help absorption of nutrients.  A great energy booster too!

    Aloe Activator to clean the ulcer if necessary.

    Aloe Propolis cream which has the added benefits of Bee propolis which is a natural anti-biotic.  It is more moisturising than the AV gelly.  You could apply the gelly on top of the propolis to assist penetration into the ulcer.

    You can view these products on-line by following this link

    http://distrib.foreverliving.com/retail/EntryServlet?langID=en&storeID=GBR&distribID=440100124992

    If you need any more information please let me know.  Please also note that Forever offer a 60 day money back guarantee.  You should see results a lot quicker than this although it could take a number of weeks for it to heal. 

    Wishing you all the best,

    Noelyne 

     


    Noelyne Jones

    Wellness Management Coach

    Independent Distributor - Forever
    http://distrib.foreverliving.com/retail/EntryServlet?langID=en&storeID=GBR&distribID=440100124992
  •  06-28-2009, 3:01 PM 8222 in reply to 8193

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Thank you for your quick reply. I have ordered the Manuka honey & it should  be here shortly

    This ulcer is not infected, according to the swabs (done twice because it looks so red & angry).  Yet the doctor has prescribed another anti-biotic on top of the ''wide-spectrum'' one I've already taken.  I really don't think I should take it.  I said nothing . . .

    I hope the Manuka won't prove to be too sharp for it. At the moment I'm covering it with Germolene, which really soothes it, but the nurses disapprove completely. I don't know why, for anything they've put on it so far only put it crazy.

    Again, thanks for your help.

    Rosemary11

     

  •  06-28-2009, 3:07 PM 8223 in reply to 8213

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Thank you for all the info re Aloe Vera. Several of my friends are urging me to try it along with Manuka honey.

    Between the two of them I should be able to get some relief.

    Thanks again for your help.

    Rosemary.

  •  06-28-2009, 7:20 PM 8224 in reply to 8222

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Hi Rosemary11

    I had a word with my friend and she told me she also tried germolene but it didn't do any long term good.  She started by washing the sores with warm salt water, at one point she used TCP but it dried the skin up around the sores and was very uncomfortable.  The manuka honey was soothing and didn't hurt at all - just very sticky.  A minor problem for the long term benefit of a completely healed leg.  She washed her leg twice a day and re-applied the honey.

    All the best

     Sue 

     

  •  06-28-2009, 10:35 PM 8226 in reply to 8224

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Thanks again for more help.  I don't care in the slightest whether the honey is sticky or not - that's small beer indeed! 

    One of the nurses has given me a 'honey dressing'  that's 'approved' here in UK, but there's no mention of Manuka on it.  Could it be possible it's just a cheap imitation for some drug company to cash in?  OR - (Maybe I'm paranoid!) -  couldn't they use an ordinary honey that won't work so that they can claim manuka's no good.  I'll wait for the manuka tomorrow.

    The Germolene does nothing to heal, but it's the only thing I tried yet that soothes the pain. It really does help there.

    Thanks again for your help. It's greatly appreciated.

    Rosemary. 

  •  06-29-2009, 10:52 AM 8230 in reply to 8226

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Hi Rosemary

    Manuka honey is incredible stuff - it has antibacterial properties.  My friend used 15+ but you can get stronger strength if needed.

    The drug companies pounce on anything that will make a profit so you might not be far off.  I wouldn't have thought a honey dressing would have the same healing power as Manuka honey straight out of the jar.  I'm not an expert on dressings by any means but who knows what quality honey they would use (for profit margin reasons) and would other things also be included in the dressing?  A bit like food, I like to know what I'm eating and avoid processed foods as I don't really know what's in them.

    If you eat the honey as well as applying it, it will help you heal from the inside too.

    I look forward to hearing about your progress and the demise of the leg ulcer.

    Sue 

  •  06-30-2009, 12:43 PM 8239 in reply to 8192

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

     

    Hi Rosemary

     

    I have heard of people using colliodal silver to treat leg ulcers with very good results

     

    Good luck Anthony 

  •  06-30-2009, 12:59 PM 8242 in reply to 8230

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Dear Rosemary,

    My husband has had a leg ulcer on both legs for 7 years now and, over this time, has had numerous treatments, including excess use of antibiotics, one of which turned his hair pure white!  He started taking Colloidal Silver daily and persuaded the local cottage hospital to try a silver dressing on the ulcers. This has worked wonders, one leg has completely healed up now and the other is looking really good and is very shallow. He has also taken Bee Propolis 1000mg X 4 daily for many years now as, many years ago, he had constant bugs in the ulcers which, despite all those antibiotcs, remained defiant. After taking the Propolis for a few weeks he had another swab test which was totally clear and has remained so to this day. We get them from Bee Health in Bridlington, East Yorkshire. Tel No: 01262 607890.

    Do so hope you find relief soon

    Elizabeth

  •  06-30-2009, 2:14 PM 8246 in reply to 8242

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Dear Rosemary,

     If the Manuka honey has arrived it should help sort out your leg ulcer as it does have good properties, even though a little sticky!

    A less sticky route is colloidal silver (as suggested by Anthony and Elizabeth) and you can apply the liquid topically and also take 3 x 5 ml doses per day orally.  This will help boost your immune system and help tackle the problem from within.   The best quality (colloidal) silver hydrosol comes from Natural-Immunogenics Corp in the US (www.natural-immunogenics.com) and you can obtain Sovereign Silver  from www.savant-health.com (Tel: 08450 606070) in the UK.

    Hope your leg gets better soon.

    Best wishes

    Julian

     

     

     

  •  06-30-2009, 2:43 PM 8248 in reply to 8192

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Sorry you are in such pain Rosemary.

    I absolutely recommend Aloe Vera Gelly - I have seen the results on leg ulcers and bed sores and am sure this will help you. I am a distributor for Forever Living Products - the largest grower of cultivated aloe in the world and we do not add man-made chemicals to our products, allowing the inner leaf gel to work as nature intended. If you would like to try a tube, please contact me - 01234 817675 - we trade with a 60-day money back satisfaction guarantee, so there is no risk.

    Regards,

    Margaret

     

  •  06-30-2009, 3:08 PM 8253 in reply to 8192

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Hi Rosemary,

     Don't know how large the leg ulcer is.....but can only quote what happened to me and how I cured it...this is my published quote on the world of NZ website...

    Reviewer: Albert Bacon from London   5 Stars
    Had an ankle ulcer that refused to heal in spite of excellent care from my GP practice nurse. Over a four week period it grew from walnut size to tennis ball size. Saw the 18+ honey product on the web, bought some and with the practice nurse's agreement used it on the ulcer. Result was almost instantaneous. After 4 days the practice nurse asked the doctor to observe this transformation. Continued with the honey for 2 weeks, increasing sparingly so it was used only as a moisturiser. After two weeks no more honey required. Leg wound dried up and now healed. Only wish I had taken digital pictures of the before and after. Still have half the tube left. My thanks to those bees and the people at Manuka. Albert.

     Hope this helps...Albert

     

  •  06-30-2009, 10:24 PM 8265 in reply to 8253

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Hi Rosemary,

    Please do use the Manuka. It is well known for its anti MRSA properties

    Suggestion;- lightly wash,(or soak if you can) ulcer in teped salty water- pat dry, dont rub;

                     apply Manuka , and cover with one of the supplied Honey dressings, fixing with a light bandage !!  This will use them up; have healed many an ulcer with ordinary supermarket honey, but Manuka is 'the bees knees!!'

    When changing the dressing, do not rub the cells on the surface of the wound.  I am thinking that if it is possible for you to sit down with your feet up, with the feet a little higher than your hip level, this will aid fluid drainage from the leg and back to the heart;

    have you placed a quarze crystal over the top of the bandage and ulcer? This is another non-invasive ,no side effect pain-reducer;

    Sincerly Annie

     

  •  07-01-2009, 5:08 AM 8270 in reply to 8265

    Re: Painful leg ulcer

    Many of your correspondents refer to Manuka Honey.  They are absolutely correct and there is no other remedy that is more effective.  You can apply by way of dressings which are available but in most cases packing he ulcer with honey and covering with an absorbent lint dressing will do just as well.  The honey works on three levels 1.  Providing it has a UMF rating of 15+ it will be highly antibacterial.  2. Compounds in the honey have high anti inflammatory properties. 3  The complex sugars feed the wounds mast cells and grow in sush a way that scars are usually minimised.  As no scab forms  the wound is not subject to trauma as dressings are changed.  One derssins should be adequate for a 24 hours period.  Washing the residual honey off with warm water makes for ease of use.  Suggest you visit the website www.Comvita.com and look under their reference to Medihoney
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