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ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH?

Last post 05-21-2008, 4:28 AM by richard ponsonby. 6 replies.
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  •  04-09-2008, 8:29 PM 3908

    ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH?

    I was startled to learn that according to an investigation performed by Gary Null (http://www.whale.to/a/null9.html#THE_FIRST_IATROGENIC_STUDY)in association with several medical doctors that the leading cause of death in America may in fact be Iatrogenic Illness.  As defined by Bruce Lipton, PhD (http://www.brucelipton.com/), in his book The Biology of Belief,  Iatrogenic Illness means:  "you go to the doctor with problem A and you are treated and then you die from problem B".  The word iatrogenic literally means "brought forth by a healer".  My mom was treated years ago with prescription drugs after suffering a mild stroke.  Prior to that time she had been on prescription drugs for high blood preassure.  Shorty after the stroke, she died of a heart attack.  The interresting thing to me was that she never had any signs of heart problems.  Years after her death, I heard a news broadcast on the radio saying that if you were taking a certain prescription for high blood pressure, you should not take this certain other prescription drug because it could cause a heat attack.  I don't recall what those two drugs were.  My own instincts have always been to never take any checmicals into the body that are not found there naturally.  Based on that instinct, I have refused all prescription pharmaceuticals and virtually all over the counter drugs as well.  When I feel the need for medication, I temporarily increase my intake of herbs.  I'm now at a point in my life where I get sick very, very seldom and at one point went more than 8 years without being sick one day.  What I'm really concerned about is that the message I'm attempting to provide here is not new.  This information has been known for several years.  Doctors are still prescribing pharmaceuticals and the pharmaceutical companies are producing new and potentially more lethal drugs ever single year.  They are now even advertising them on Television.  How long will it take to get the politicians and the medical community to wake up and stop prescribing problems?  I know, I know, they are all still PRACTICING physcians, right?  Well let them NOT practice with the lives of human beings.  Let them have sense enough to withold new drugs that have any side effects whatsoever.  As Bruce Lipton says in his book and lectures, "They are not side effects!  They are direct effects!".
  •  04-10-2008, 12:47 AM 3912 in reply to 3908

    Re: ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH?

    i think its more than just prescription drugs it is our modern way of life. Things like emf radiation from mobile masts and phones and wi-fi, vaccinations and the toxins in our food also contribute.

     

    All of these factors interact to cause the current epidemic of cancer, autism, schizophrenia, and auto immune disease, multiple chemical sensitivity, moregellons, diseases we couldn't even have imagined fifty years ago. 

  •  04-29-2008, 4:45 PM 4100 in reply to 3908

    Re: ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH?

    dmlabuda:
    ... Doctors are still prescribing pharmaceuticals and the pharmaceutical companies are producing new and potentially more lethal drugs ever single year.  They are now even advertising them on Television.  How long will it take to get the politicians and the medical community to wake up and stop prescribing problems?  I know, I know, they are all still PRACTICING physcians, right?  Well let them NOT practice with the lives of human beings.  Let them have sense enough to withold new drugs that have any side effects whatsoever.  As Bruce Lipton says in his book and lectures, "They are not side effects!  They are direct effects!".


    I have to largely agree with you over the use of drugs by the pharmasutical industry. I get told by my doctors that statins are safe. The usual effects are to increase the risk of cancer, increase the risk of heart desease in some cases, they cause muscle pains and damage and also can cause liver damage.  And that group of drugs are considered 'SAFE' !

    Equally a friend was having trouble a while ago, and was on painkillers and another drug.  she was a complete mess and then went down with psycological peoblems.  Since coming off all the drugs she was taking she looks 10 years younger and very much fitter.

    On the same subject,  the third biggest killer in the US is reported to be drug interactions. Also the biggest users of 'off label' and 'unliscensed use'  prescription drugs is the hospitals!   The very place people go when they have serious problems.  

    Look at the cases in America where the some of the  'batterered children' in hospital did not have the injuries when they went in there but where the result of the drugs given to them while they were in hospital. 

    Thats why I eat mostly vegetarian food, try to keep off most refined food and carbohydrates and  try to keep myself fit.
  •  05-10-2008, 6:23 PM 4174 in reply to 4100

    Re: ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH?

    As a homeopath I occasionly have a new patient in whose symptoms when I look up the medication they are taking are directly attributed to that medication. They don't need a remedy from me- they just need to see their GP about coming off that medication safely. All medication side effects can be checked using the online BNF at http://www.bnf.org

    The other thing I see is a patient on drug A which causes damage to another organ so they are given drug B to counteract that. Drug B then causes the breakdown of yet another organ and yet more medication is given!!

    Personally I only go near a GP to get a prescription for diabetes blood testing sticks so I can monitor that my blood sugar (type 2 inherited diabetes) continues to be lower than it has ever been purely on a lowcarb/low GI diet and copious amounts of green tea!!! 

  •  05-20-2008, 4:37 PM 4246 in reply to 3908

    Re: ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH?

    while I agree with you in principle & am glad to have this issue addressed & love the new word ...I should mention...and I am sorry to...stroke & high blood pressure may be indications of undiagnosed or diagnosed heart issues...very directly in fact...drug contraindications are usually checked by your pharmacist & are written with instructions when you purchase a new medication...If in fact a doctor prescribed two drugs simultaneously that were contra-indicative, then what you are implying is malpractice which is punishable by law...so I would be careful about pointing fingers, unless you actually are a victim of malpractice...after that, I should add again, that I agree with you entirely about the predicament of going in with a small ailment & coming out with three major side effect diseases...Our reliance on medicine to magically solve life-long habits is also our fault though...my condolences...
  •  05-20-2008, 5:21 PM 4252 in reply to 4100

    Re: ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH?

    ......"Thats why I eat mostly vegetarian food"....Great stuff with some good quality meat or fish I find!:)

    Yes the 'new word' has been around for as long as the problem I think.It IS a crazy world where the 'Health Care' system ...is more often the health destroy system.Money, money, money....and only the tip of a very large iceberg of adverse drug reactions are ever reported back up the line.The problem is undoubtedly much larger than most realise.

    To think that by introducing a toxic drug into an organism that nature designed/evolved/whatever, we will solve a health problem, is not only bizzarre, but typical arrogant behaviour that, 'man knows better'.

    By the way, I'm STILL trying to find ANY reliably independent efficacy figures for vaccines.Should be simple I would have thought, to provide me with the numbers of prior vaccinated and unvaccinated infectious disease sufferers in any given health authority/country/year.Apparently not.I wonder why.....


    David
  •  05-21-2008, 4:28 AM 4266 in reply to 4252

    Re: ARE PRESCRIPTION DRUGS THE LEADING CAUSE OF DEATH?

    dgtucker:

    ......"Thats why I eat mostly vegetarian food"....Great stuff with some good quality meat or fish I find!:)

    Yes the 'new word' has been around for as long as the problem I think.It IS a crazy world where the 'Health Care' system ...is more often the health destroy system.Money, money, money....and only the tip of a very large iceberg of adverse drug reactions are ever reported back up the line.The problem is undoubtedly much larger than most realise.

    To think that by introducing a toxic drug into an organism that nature designed/evolved/whatever, we will solve a health problem, is not only bizzarre, but typical arrogant behaviour that, 'man knows better'.

    By the way, I'm STILL trying to find ANY reliably independent efficacy figures for vaccines.Should be simple I would have thought, to provide me with the numbers of prior vaccinated and unvaccinated infectious disease sufferers in any given health authority/country/year.Apparently not.I wonder why.....

    You wonder why? Isn't it obvious that vaccines serve as a cash cow for Big Pharma, and health authorities deliberately don't even bother to collect the necessary statistics. You really have to wonder why previously unknown or rare diseases like cancers, autoimmune disorders, moregellon's, autism, fibromyalgia, diabetes, etc. correlate perfectly to the  increase of unnecessary vaccinations!

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