A friend of mine has had cancer in one lung and has had both chemotherapy and radio therapy.

Chemotherapy August 2007.  Radiotherapy November 2007, and a second radio therapy about 4 weeks ago. 

He feels sick practically all the time, does not feel like eating and cannot eat late.  He is eating as much as he can

and presently his weight is stable.  He is a very intelligent man who was very active. His main problem is extreme tiredness

which gives him a terrible feeling of guilt when he does not do what he set out to do.

 

I'm sorry your friend is in trouble, but I'm just wondering on what scale you rate intelligence: there will be quite a few on this site who would not consider it intelligent to go for chemo and radiation without first trying natural methods to get the body back in balance. Some of us will be wondering whether that lung cancer was provoked by smoking - another 'intelligent' decision? And what use is this intelligence if it is for feeling guilty when the body is quite naturally expressing its extreme discomfort at being poisoned?

And all the rest of the posters will be wondering if you have a question that someone can answer for you.... 

Hi,

He is being poisoned by the chemo and radiation "treatment"...you cannot poison yourself well.

If this has been ongoing since 2007 it's pretty safe to assume it aint working...time to try something else?

Robin

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Hi, it is very difficult when a friend is ill and you want to do something for them.  I have recently had a friend die who went down the conventional medical route - it was her choice, she knew that I would support her and another friend who is a therapist would have helped to find other approaches - but she made her choice. 

So there are two things - first what support does your friend want from you - is he asking you to find something different?  There are approaches to be found on the Internet like bicarb and maple syrup which are reported to have worked in cases of lung cancer.  Or is he just wanting you to be there for him as emotional and physical support?  In terms of diet it is probably best to avoid sugar (cancers feed on sugar) and to eat food which he finds enjoyable and health-giving.  The second thing is about you - whilst you are his friend you are not responsible for his health.  It is horrible to see a friend very ill, to feel powerless to help and to feel very strongly that there are better ways of doing things.  But it is his body and his life and he will make his own choices.

Being very ill makes you tired as the body has less energy and is taking some of this energy to try to heal.  Is he denying that he is very ill, thinking that if he does not accept this then it isn't really there?

Do take care of yourself and be guided by your friend as to what he wants you to do.  With love.

 

That's really good advice looby888.  I have a friend who had a breast cancer scare.  She had a lump removed which I believed was non-cancerous.  However, it got infected.  I have been talking to her for over a year about alternative treatments etc., but she has still gone ahead and had radiation treatment and is now talking antibiotics.  She has no energy and is suffering from fatigue which the doctors have told her will last for about 3 weeks.  When I ask her what alternative methods she's taking she mentions herbal teas and the like.

I have to hold my tongue now as I am sure she's just humouring me when I talk about natural health and when the chips are down, she still goes the chemical route.  Sometimes there is nothing we can do for our friends but just be there as emotional support.

Sue 

A friend had lung cancer - then 6 lots of chemo. She went to an Ayurvedic Centre afterwards, where they gave her various treatments and a strict diet.    She is now a completely well person

CDJohnston it would be really useful if you could find out the name of this Ayurvedic Centre!

Kiwigal I think you are being a little harsh. You cannot imagine the pressure a cancer patient gets from the medical profession to follow their route.

Hi Lewic
Actually I know only too well - and it's even worse from family members sometimes. Where I might be being a 'little harsh' is suggesting the natural assumption that the lung cancer comes from smoking. You will notice that I was addressing the bald statement that the friend was 'very intelligent'. 

Again, Muguet has not asked a question; has not said whether the friend is looking to alternative healing to help and has not said how he/she is feeling about chemo/radiation. All there is are statements about What Is. I think we should wait for clarification from Muguet as to what anybody on this site can help with instead of assuming they need support. And since that hasn't happened yet, nor any acknowledgment of people's concern (except mine, because I don't know what to be concerned about at this point), I'm still wondering....

I would say that if the friend has not done anything over the last two years other than conventional therapy then it's not going to happen until maybe he is pronounced 'incurable' by the doctors and then he will turn as a desperate last resort to what he doesn't believe will work. So, again, what does Muguet want/need by coming on this site?  So far he/she isn't forthcoming with the answer.

Cheers 

Sometimes we don't know what questions to ask - we feel helpless and there it is.  A forum like this is a bit of a blunt instrument - if we were talking together we would get more information.  So I, and I suspect other posters, are attempting to shine a little light on a very difficult situation from our own experience.  If that is not what is required then there's no harm done.  But I hope that there has been a sense of being there, being open to providing some support and feeling compasion for Muguet and their friend.  With love.

Hello!

I recommend that you look at my site www.WatersofHealth.com for information on a Japanese technology which changes the chemical structure of tap water, giving it properties that are very beneficial for health. It had been in use in hospitals there for the last 35 years. Dr. Otto Warburg, who won the Nobel prize in 1931 and 1944, found that cancer can only grow in tissues that are overly acidic and lacking in oxygen. This water has an alkaline pH, so it helps to reduce over-acidity and is oxygen rich. In addition, it fights free-radical damage, as it is rich in electrons (free radicals are unstable molecules which lack electrons, and steal them from healthy tissue, creating a chain of damage.) It is also better absorbed by the body than ordinary bottled or tap water. 

 This water should give your friend more energy, and perhaps help him to recover. There have been cases of people drinking this water in large amounts, whose tumors have shrunk.  People are experiencing major benefits with all illnesses, such as diabetes, high blood pressure, asthma, arthritis, ulcers, acid reflux, and more.

Feel free to contact me at 917 509-3256. I am in the USA, The machines can be purchased in any part of the world!

Hana Dolgin

Hydration Consultant 

Call me a sceptic, but in the sales video for this product (AKA ionised water) the guy constantly refers to the health giving properties of "ACIDIC water" when speaking about its use in hospitals. But it is referred to elsewhere as being alkaline!

It may well have a beneficial effect. But the ad is very confusing.

Hi

This may help: it is part of an email sent to me by a research chemist friend who has undergone both surgery and chemo and is currently clear:

 

 

Hi Tony

I'm just wondering how your relayed information is going to help anybody on this site, where we do everything to avoid conventional therapy.

And whether your friend, scientists though he may be, realises that regular scanning can provoke cancer of itself?

And that living from scan to scan, wondering if the cancer has come back is extremely negative energy and therefore not conducive to staying healthy?

And that relying on others to heal your Self is pretty useless and ignores the Self and the reason why it appeared in the first place (like workplace conditions)?

And that the acknowledged side-effects (as there always are) can of themselves provoke other cancers and/or chronic ill health, necessitating in yet more debilitating drugs with side-effects ... at this point Big Pharma is rubbing its hands together as this means a regular income for it.

Perhaps your friend can look at holistic ways to prevent the cancer coming back, rather than relying on his mates to come up with a way to wave a magic wand-potion to make it disappear. Based on the fact that Big Pharma only operates in power by having a large customer base, what do you think the odds are that it is actually looking to make people healthy? I think Monsanto's behaviour with the farmers is a micro-picture of Big Pharma at work.
Cheers
Heidi 

Did you look on my site www.WatersofHealth.com? Which video are you looking at? There are very clear explanations there, as well as

videos regarding detoxification of the colon, the uses of the water in Japanese hospitals, and much  more. 

 

Hana Dolgin

 

Now I got it, you were watching the video on the uses of the water in Japanese hospitals. The drinking water is alkaline, but the water used for treating skin conditions is very acidic (2.5 pH) and kills bacteria, fungus, microbes, etc. That's why you were confused.

 www.WatersofHealth.com

Best wishes,

Hana Dolgin

Hydration Consultant