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<?xml-stylesheet type="text/xsl" href="http://community.wddty.com/utility/FeedStylesheets/rss.xsl" media="screen"?><rss version="2.0" xmlns:dc="http://purl.org/dc/elements/1.1/" xmlns:slash="http://purl.org/rss/1.0/modules/slash/" xmlns:wfw="http://wellformedweb.org/CommentAPI/"><channel><title>Adverse Reactions : antioxidants</title><link>http://community.wddty.com/blogs/adverse_reactions/archive/tags/antioxidants/default.aspx</link><description>Tags: antioxidants</description><dc:language>en</dc:language><generator>CommunityServer 2.1 (Build: 60809.935)</generator><item><title>Not even wrong</title><link>http://community.wddty.com/blogs/adverse_reactions/archive/2008/04/18/Not-even-wrong.aspx</link><pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 12:04:00 GMT</pubDate><guid isPermaLink="false">e6c67f3d-bf7b-4201-a2c0-6e02384b9f98:4010</guid><dc:creator>Bryan Hubbard</dc:creator><slash:comments>5</slash:comments><comments>http://community.wddty.com/blogs/adverse_reactions/comments/4010.aspx</comments><wfw:commentRss>http://community.wddty.com/blogs/adverse_reactions/commentrss.aspx?PostID=4010</wfw:commentRss><wfw:comment>http://community.wddty.com/blogs/adverse_reactions/rsscomments.aspx?PostID=4010</wfw:comment><description>&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;You can prove the darnedest things with science.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;You can demonstrate that dangerous drugs are safe; you can even establish that vitamins and nutritional supplements can shorten your life, a sleight of hand that was performed this week.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;And the great thing is that, because it&amp;rsquo;s done in the name of science, everyone believes you!&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;As you may have read (and because every newspaper in the western spiral arm of the Milky Way had it on their front page, you probably did), the highly-regarded Cochrane Collaboration concluded that not only would the antioxidants A, C and E do next to nothing to improve your health, they might also shorten it.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;This had everyone scratching their head.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;It was a startling conclusion that went against everything we thought we knew, and was contrary to the conclusions reached by almost every other significant research paper written over the past 40 years.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;So how did they do it?&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The Cochrane paper was a meta-analysis, which means it re-analysed all existing papers that passed certain criteria for inclusion.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Usually the main criterion is &amp;lsquo;good science&amp;rsquo; &amp;ndash; the studies are well-controlled and reputable.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;But things weren&amp;rsquo;t quite so straight-forward with the Cochrane meta-study.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;The research team started out with 16,111 scientific papers, and they immediately discarded 14,910 of them.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Why?&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Well, said the researchers, they included cancer studies, or they were duplicates, or because they were &amp;lsquo;not relevant&amp;rsquo;, although nobody defined what to the study was relevant.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;However, the researchers did include studies of precancerous lesions and skin cancer which were. . .cancer studies.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;So, the researchers were left with 1,201 papers that covered 815 separate clinical trials.&lt;span&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/span&gt;Of these, a further 747 were rejected because nobody died during the course of the study. After throwing out all the positive papers that demonstrated health-giving benefits of vitamins, the researchers were left with a small handful of just 68 that suggested vitamins didn&amp;rsquo;t extend life, but might even shorten it.&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;Of course, the discarded 16,043 papers discovered the very reverse.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;Some science is so bad that scientists have a disparaging phrase for it.&amp;nbsp; They say it&amp;#39;s not even wrong.&amp;nbsp; Sadly, even &amp;#39;not even wrong&amp;#39; papers get good coverage in the media, and at a time when the EU and others around the globe are deciding on&amp;nbsp;safe upper limits of vitamins, and those we shouldn&amp;#39;t be allowed to take at all.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;It would be a tragedy if this paper becomes a major influence in their decision-making.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/font&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p class="MsoNormal" style="margin:0cm 0cm 0pt;"&gt;&lt;span&gt;&lt;font face="Times New Roman" size="3"&gt;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/font&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;img src="http://community.wddty.com/aggbug.aspx?PostID=4010" width="1" height="1"&gt;</description><category domain="http://community.wddty.com/blogs/adverse_reactions/archive/tags/vitamins/default.aspx">vitamins</category><category domain="http://community.wddty.com/blogs/adverse_reactions/archive/tags/Cochrane/default.aspx">Cochrane</category><category domain="http://community.wddty.com/blogs/adverse_reactions/archive/tags/antioxidants/default.aspx">antioxidants</category><category domain="http://community.wddty.com/blogs/adverse_reactions/archive/tags/meta-analysis/default.aspx">meta-analysis</category></item></channel></rss>