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MMR: The myth of the herd

Health experts are concerned that the uptake of the MMR vaccine is still far too low to provide ‘herd immunity’ for the population.  Vaccination levels have risen to 85 per cent overall following the autism scare - but they are still well below the 95 per cent recommended by the World Health Organization in order to achieve global protection from the disease.

The premise that supports the herd immunity theory is, of course, that the vaccine works, and offers years of protection.

But, at best, it works for some of the people some of the time – a fact that governments and health officials are loathe to reveal.

For instance, more than three-quarters of all measles cases in the UK that were diagnosed between 1985 and 1986 had been properly vaccinated.  A similar pattern can be found in the USA.  In one outbreak in 1986 in Corpus Christi, Texas, 99 per cent of affected children had been vaccinated.  It’s a picture that applies across the whole of the USA where 80 per cent of all cases of measles occur in vaccinated children.

Even if the MMR provides some kind of protection at the time, it also seems to transfer the problem to later years.  Before vaccinations became a national pursuit, 90 per cent of all cases of measles occurred in children aged between five and nine.

Now up to 64 per cent of measles cases are among the over-10s.

Published 28 September 2007 13:16 by Bryan Hubbard

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Forced Anarchy said:

I am working on an anti vaccine documentary and think it is sick the scare tactics they use to promote the MMR. If you want take a look at my blog and tell me what you think of my project or

September 29, 2007 20:46

Helena Dennison said:

Not only does the measles vaccine not protect children past a certain age, but when/if they get measles the disease is more severe and they are more prone to complications. Look up the stats on this as it is the stongest argument against the jab. As homeopaths we believe (and see in practice) that the purpose of 'childhood' diseases is to throw off weak traits inherited from the parents. After a properly nursed childhood illness we see children either grow physically, shoot up, or take a leap forward in development of a skill eg reading etc. The logical thinking suggests that a successfully resolved illness (ie no drugs, bed rest, light diet etc) strengthens the immune system. I have also noticed the effect of DPT shots on kids. They become pale faced, prone to colds and tonsillitis in particular and generally snotty. THis bunged up state also affects them developmentally and is probably part of the cause of slow learning. See Harris Coulter's book on this: Vaccination, Criminality and Social VIolence, the end of the American dream. Interesting reading.

October 2, 2007 13:37 said:

I have 4 children and they have not been vaccinated due to a lot of research and reading. Compared to their peers, they very rarely become ill & if they do get something they seem to fight it quickly and strongly.I think that the common sense view of your body becoming healthier and stronger after being nursed through an illness without conventional drugs is definitely true in our situation. They have had measles which involved a slight fever and a rash for a few days. Anyway in summary i am all for trying to fight illnesses in as natural as a way as possible, with minimum convent. medicine if at all possible & using homeopathy which works amazingly for childhood ailments in our family.

October 2, 2007 14:15

Beryl said:

My grandson developed autistic traits after the MMR.  Same old -same old - BUT he had the MMR a year later than normal because he had been premature, and my Doctor waited until he was "big enough" to cope with the MMR. His autism then also showed a year later than normal. Coincidence? I don't think so. He screamed like a trapped animal for 3 days after the jab. We were told to give him Calpol, which he had previously tolerated well. He brought it back up. Within a week he was non verbal, and was back in nappies as he had lost bladder and bowel control. The paediatrician said it was because his father was away in the army. He only saw his father on weekend leave anyway, so it didn't make that much difference. He had almost constant diarrhoea. I was told maybe his food wasn't cooked hygeinically. [I am a qualified chef, and passed all the food and hygiene exams, and I was a nurse years ago]. I finally got digestive enzymes for him, and the problem is nowhere near as bad as it used to be though he has problems with bread and milk. Cheese and yoghurt seem not to bother him, and he can drink untreated milk with no problems. He couldn't bear to be touched. My daughter could no longer cope with his melt downs. Think Chernobyl, and you might understand. Either I took him on, or he went into care. I managed to get him out of nappies and talking again before school, but he was never the same again. I'd rather he had taken the chances of getting measles than had the jab, but it wasn't my decision. He is very laid back now, but unable to work as he can't travel alone, stand noise or crowds, or strong smells. The Job Centre offered him a job in MacDonalds ! I can't get a DX around here, so the SS won't pay any Benefits. He is Aspergers, we do know that much. I have to keep him on the pension I receive. I can't even claim him as a dependant. My girls got the measles jab pre Nursery, or pre School. Quite early enough in my opinion. Boys don't need the Rubella jab, Girls don't need the Mumps jab. They used to get the relevant jab at 12-13. Now we are told that is not safe ! Well, that's what my 4 daughters had, and they were fine. I dread to think what will happen to this unholy mix when they add the chickenpox jab to it.

October 2, 2007 14:29

Lucy Cronly said:

I find the debate about the MMR causing Autism a constant concern. My son now aged nine suffered from horrendous 'colic' We spent nights walking the floor with him until he was about seven month. We were lucky to attend an osteopathic doctor for his colic. He suggested that we educate ourselves about vaccination. Our son displayed all the symptoms of a child with a highly sensitive system that would (according to Veira Scheibners research) react very badly to  vaccination. We did not vaccinate him. He has received none of the recommended vaccinations. He was diagnosed with Autism at age four. The vaccinations did not cause his Autism but I believe would have hugely exacerbated his difficulties. He is in mainstream school and functions well. I do not believe he would be as well as he is had we gone ahead with vaccination. He was also long term breastfed which gave him natural immunity.

October 2, 2007 20:12

Sarah Bullock. said:

I highly recommend to anyone interested in understanding sickness and disease, to read Dr.Robert Young's eye opening book 'Sick and Tired'. He gives much insight into the nature of sickness, which I totally resonate with. If you read his chapter on the background and development of vaccines, you would never entertain having a vaccination again.

As all of our reality is created from the inside out, the world around you is a direct result of your thoughts and feelings, the only way to feel and experience total health, is to focus on how wonderful you feel every day and to give thanks for your continued good health. even if this is not the case, the ' Law of Attraction'  must send you back that which you are dwelling on, therefore, shifting any negative areas of health. Everything outside of yourself is a mirror of your beliefs,what you choose to focus your thoughts on and the feelings that these thoughts evoke.Everything in life is created first by thought,it is the precursor of all manifestations. When humanity wakes up to this truth, all the ills of this world will be healed through the shift of our collective mindset. Do not buy into the concept of ill-health, by having a vaccination we our demonstrating our belief in sickness and illness.

Holistic Health therapist and mind-set revolutionist. Blessings of fantastic health and well-being to you all.

October 3, 2007 11:51

Margaret Dale said:

My Son had The MMR in 1989 at 15 months old before he had the MMR he was talking and doing everything for his age level,after the MMR he developed Autism he lost his speech and everything changed.

What annoys me is he has now developed Epilepsy the head Teacher of his last school said it was common in Autistic people

When he was diagnosed in 1991 the Consultant told us the rise in Autism since the start of the MMR had been brought to the attention of the govenment, what annoys me most is the govenment is still giving the MMR.

Why don't the govenment give single jabs to see how the numbers with Autism drops,is it because they know that we parents are right and are frightened of the cost,

One day it will be proved but all these who have been afected will need care for the rest of their lives.

Margaret Dale

October 4, 2007 17:17

whale said:

herd immunity bull is just the ploy they use to up vax uptake so they don't have any unvaccinated kids about to show them up, like Dan Olmsted found

"The reason vaccinations are promoted with such intensity is to prevent people from realising that vaccines do not protect and also in the event of an outbreak or an epidemic the vaccinated are as much at risk of becoming infected as the unvaccinated.  The truth can be kept hidden if people's vaccination status remains unknown and if everyone is vaccinated, making a comparison with unvaccinated people impossible.  This is also the real reason for the relentless push to vaccinate as many children as possible."-- Dr Buchwald (The Decline of Tuberculosis despite "Protective" Vaccination by Dr. Gerhard Buchwald M.D. p101)

November 23, 2007 12:51

Rachel Highsted said:

My son has not been vaccinated with the MMR as the media fuss over the link with autism was just hitting its high at the time he should have had it.  When he was at pre-school the woman in charge came outside to see me one day to suggest that my son was autistic ("he displays all the characteristics that "they" do).  She suggested that as he knew the names of roughly 5 different dinosaurs that he was obsesive.  His behaviour was certainly different and his social skills somewhat behind the other kids.  I was very upset but as his development seemed normal in all other areas I calmed down (after about 2 weeks) and reckoned we should just carry on as normal and see what happened.  His speach and all other development was fine.  He started primary school and although his teacher confirmed that he was slightly different (in fact "a bit strange" was what she said - not unkindly) his work was average and he made friends.  He's now 9 and sometimes I feel that his social skills are a bit behind his friends but then we're all only human.  My point is this.  I feel that my decision to not have the MMR is the right one.  I am sure that there is/was an element of autism in my son and if i'd agreed to give him the MMR it would have kicked that little autism gene into action and he'd be having huge problems right now.

May 19, 2008 17:12

megangrace2006 said:

I have to decide whether to have my son vaccinated (he is 6 wks old) and I know that I will be confronted by the nurse/doc at the surgery if I decide not to go ahead.  I had my daughter vaccinated ( she is now 5 yrs old).  However, I refused to take her for the 2nd MMR after she had to be admitted to hospital with breathing problems and I started doing further research.  I feel very uncomfortable about taking my son, but feel that I need some moral support and also so that I can feel confident when approached by healthcare professionals ( who can be intimidating).

March 28, 2011 12:26

Palafox said:

A world where a certain darkness is slowly taking over those around Alan,

and that includes humans, animals and even non-living things.

At least, however, it isn't there out of the box, as unlike the Xbox One, which ships with a Kinect unit, the PS4 keeps

its price lower by not shipping the PS4 Camera with the base unit.

"In the Next Gen , the game feels much more complete in terms of visuals , gameplay and level ".

March 23, 2014 14:45

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